(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] GN[Pandanet Go European Cup - Brno, 4th round, 3rd board]PW[Vladimir Danek, 5.dan]PB[Pal Balogh, 6.dan]DT[2007-09-01]EV[Brno]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] ;B[qd] ;W[dd] ;B[oc] ;W[pp] ;B[eo] ;W[qi] ;B[qk] ;W[qf] ;B[oj]C[sdfert: hi sdfert: where are the most recent results? ] ;W[of] ;B[oh] ;W[rd] ;B[rc] ;W[re]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: http://www.goweb.cz/node/41 ] ;B[pg] ;W[pf] ;B[rh] ;W[qh]C[YodaNorimo [4d\]: why are not viewing catalin against cho? YodaNorimo [4d\]: :S ] ;B[ri] ;W[qg] ;B[qj]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: because that game is on IGS in profile Brno2007 BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: they are on IGS¨ YodaNorimo [4d\]: thx ] ;W[nc] ;B[nd] ;W[od]C[Fredda [-\]: Is Pal Balogh wearing his shorts, Brno2007? tonyp [3d\]: Is P15 ok here? VincentV [4d\]: omg how is that relevant to the game O_O ? Fredda [-\]: without them he's weak... ] ;B[oe] ;W[ne] ;B[md]C[tonyp [3d\]: N16? tonyp [3d\]: doesn't look so good for w tonyp [3d\]: am I missing something? ] ;W[pe] ;B[pd]C[FlameBlade [3d\]: somehow, black's shape feels like black will collapse soon. despise [7k\]: ko tonyp [3d\]: whoah! FlameBlade [3d\]: but... FlameBlade [3d\]: I'm a mere 3d, what do I know tonyp [3d\]: I thought b would play P18 tonyp [3d\]: I guess b follows the proverb tonyp [3d\]: there are no ko threats at the beginning of the game sherryjay [1k\]: what is it with the 5-5s in this round not5k [5k\]: what is this, some french or russian tournament? tonyp [3d\]: 5-5s are a reasonable sort of mover not5k [5k\]: 5-5 works great against 5ks because they ususally invade the 4-4, which i reply with the double hane chrpa [1k\]: it is tournament in Czech R. - pandanet major ] ;W[pc] ;B[oe] ;W[pj] ;B[pk] ;W[od] ;B[ob] ;W[qc] ;B[oe] ;W[rb] ;B[qb] ;W[sc] ;B[pb]C[tonyp [3d\]: nice maneuver from w ] ;W[rc]C[aitkensam [-\]: anyone else feel like haunting IGS with evil kibbitz 0_o ] ;B[nq] ;W[qn]C[sherryjay [1k\]: so far looks like b is better? tonyp [3d\]: hard to say he's too far ahead tonyp [3d\]: he hasn't much territory tonyp [3d\]: and his thickness isn't overwhelming sherryjay [1k\]: yes but w has very little actual territory too emk [1d\]: 5-5... hmm... watched too much hng? not5k [5k\]: 5-5 works! ] ;B[pr] ;W[qq] ;B[no]C[YodaNorimo [4d\]: e3 not5k [5k\]: r2 sherryjay [1k\]: yodanorimo: can he afford to tenuki thas corner? ] ;W[qr] ;B[eq] ;W[jc] ;B[cf] ;W[fd]C[Javaness [1d\]: \\o/ go palika \\o/ ] ;B[bd] ;W[od] ;B[mb] ;W[lc] ;B[mc] ;W[cc] ;B[ci]C[gimme: very much over not5k [5k\]: how? gimme: b+100 sherryjay [1k\]: haha not5k [5k\]: w can still catch up ] ;W[cn]C[need4speed [2k\]: danek account in kgs is....? ] ;B[cp]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: taranu vs cho seok bin at igs, weird that they reproduce some games here and some there sherryjay [1k\]: I'm not sure he actually has any ] ;W[ck] ;B[em] ;W[ek] ;B[dl] ;W[dk]C[need4speed [2k\]: ic what a pity ] ;B[bm]C[Haloran [-\]: vlada to nejak nedal :-( sherryjay [1k\]: jo, zatim to nevypada moc dobre :( gimme: je to lama gimme: dejte na me gimme: b+100 Haloran [-\]: si sul------- ] ;W[bh] ;B[bi] ;W[ch] ;B[dh] ;W[bj] ;B[ah] ;W[cm] ;B[bn] ;W[cl] ;B[gl] ;W[cq]C[Locn4r [2d?\]: b+ 272.5 ] ;B[co]C[Locn4r [2d?\]: nive se Locn4r [2d?\]: nice* pernod [8k\]: can someone analyse this position for me ? RSG [10k\]: lol se pernod [8k\]: the se is crazy as usual... ] ;W[er] ;B[fr] ;W[dr]C[sherryjay [1k\]: w seems in quite a trouble pernod [8k\]: i wonder if a w invasion around k3 would not have been better ? RSG [10k\]: does Pal Balogh have an account? Krt [2d\]: macisait RSG [10k\]: oh, thanks ] ;B[bp]C[comesifa [-\]: when he went back from osaka please? ] ;W[bq] ;B[fq]C[pernod [8k\]: nice play by b pernod [8k\]: now white has to save c9 ] ;W[br] ;B[gd] ;W[gc] ;B[hc] ;W[hd] ;B[ge] ;W[fe] ;B[fc] ;W[gb] ;B[ff]C[kristall2 [8k\]: hm ] ;W[gf] ;B[he] ;W[hf] ;B[ie] ;W[hb] ;B[de] ;W[ed] ;B[fg] ;W[fm] ;B[fl] ;W[el] ;B[en] ;W[ei]C[aitkensam [-\]: danek crushed? ] ;B[fj] ;W[di] ;B[bg] ;W[eh] ;B[cg] ;W[gj] ;B[gi] ;W[fk] ;B[gk] ;W[hj] ;B[fi] ;W[ef] ;B[gg] ;W[eg] ;B[ee]C[rigoperl [1k\]: dangerous for b Koons [2k\]: really? Akira92 [2k\]: what is this? ddrt [23k\]: vladimir! tonyp [3d\]: I can't see the risk for b RSG [10k\]: c15? tonyp [3d\]: c15 d14 b15 a14 ] ;W[ce] ;B[df] ;W[be] ;B[bf] ;W[cd]C[tonyp [3d\]: b14 functionally equivalent ] ;B[af] ;W[if] ;B[ih]C[aitkensam [-\]: resign time ddrt [23k\]: everyone says that... spongy [1d\]: b is like a ninja Baduk4you [4d\]: atleast w got 4 corners^^ tonyp [3d\]: right, so he must resign tonyp [3d\]: remember the proverb :) XiaXia [2d?\]: is pop - cho game over? BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: no, still playing XiaXia [2d?\]: ok BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: sorry, pop won, Cho is playing with Catalin ] ;W[je] ;B[ji]C[ddrt [23k\]: what proverb? ddrt [23k\]: if you win the corners you loose the center? lol what? ddrt [23k\]: *lose ] ;W[jj]C[janissary [2d\]: hahhaa tonyp [3d\]: if you own all 4 corners or your opponent owns all 4 corners you should resign MLin [?\]: then once someone get all 4 corners, both player would try to resign? tonyp [3d\]: yes, doesn't make a lot of sense really tonyp [3d\]: but they are proverbs geology99: still has chance plonk [?\]: only if u are the weaker player! RhinoHorns [?\]: -.- ] ;B[kj]C[janissary [2d\]: hello dinerchtein:D janissary [2d\]: welcome janissary [2d\]: :D breakfast [1p\]: hi breakfast [1p\]: Danek is good at winning such positions, so Paul must be careful, The game is not yet over janissary [2d\]: hmm Midorya [2d\]: I bet on Paru Baru ] ;W[hm] ;B[gm] ;W[gn]C[janissary [2d\]: h6 ] ;B[fn]C[OldStyle [4d\]: It looks very over to me janissary [2d\]: h6 was good jopiou [8k\]: yes spongy [1d\]: how come w died? ] ;W[hl]C[janissary [2d\]: m12 and died janissary [2d\]: clearly ] ;B[li] ;W[hk] ;B[fm] ;W[kk] ;B[lk] ;W[kl] ;B[jp] ;W[ll] ;B[mk]C[geology99: should resign now ] ;W[ii]C[ghkgthiky: B better is ] ;B[hi] ;W[ij]C[janissary [2d\]: yeaaaa ] ;B[jh] ;W[mp]C[ghkgthiky: w dead is janissary [2d\]: yeaaaaaaaaaaaa janissary [2d\]: n3? ] ;B[np]C[janissary [2d\]: n3 was clear ] ;W[kp] ;B[kq]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white is in byoyomi ghkgthiky: L4 from a dark side is ] ;W[jq] ;B[kr]C[ghkgthiky: wise this is ghkgthiky: w resign should janissary [2d\]: hmm ] ;W[jr]C[ghkgthiky: force strong with b is janissary [2d\]: he have 4 corner janissary [2d\]: and he ll resing:D.:D:D: ] ;B[ip]C[jopiou [8k\]: but is small corner janissary [2d\]: yeaaaaa Tsurukame [-\]: what happens with Catalin's game? not relayed on IGS anymore? ] ;W[lp] ;B[mq] ;W[hp] ;B[hq] ;W[gp] ;B[iq]C[jopiou [8k\]: k6 ] ;W[kn] ;B[in] ;W[hn] ;B[ae] ;W[bc] ;B[rm] ;W[rn] ;B[jn] ;W[jm] ;B[ln]C[jopiou [8k\]: g2 no? ] ;W[ko] ;B[nn] ;W[gq] ;B[gr]C[vicius85 [2k\]: w will resign.... BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white resign, black won vicius85 [2k\]: ^^ despise [7k\]: W dead? Koons [2k\]: uh, yeah Tsurukame [-\]: what about the other game, board 1? ])