(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Pandanet Go European Cup - Brno, 6th round, 2nd board]PW[Jan Hora, 6.dan]PB[Pal Balogh, 6.dan]DT[2007-09-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[cd]
;W[pp]
;B[oc]
;W[qi]
;B[qk]
;W[oj]C[spongy [1d\]: is b thinking so long?
gimme: black resigned so soon?
TimiS [3d\]: hello, does anybody know the adress of the website where we can download recordings of the games?
valence [1d\]: egoban.blogspot.com
sheeryjay [5k\]: http://egoban.blogspot.com/2007/08/brno-318-29-pgec-gpr.html
TimiS [3d\]: thanks:)
valence [1d\]: oh, i am so slow.)
sheeryjay [5k\]: I was slow ;)
sheeryjay [5k\]: results of first 5 rounds http://www.goweb.cz/node/41
Javaness [1d\]: what on earth is P10
valence [1d\]: improvement?.)
valence [1d\]: i wonder if black really thinks so much...
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: still thinking
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: about 30 minutes
valence [1d\]: wow.)
sheeryjay [5k\]: omg O_O
Fredda [-\]: Pal Balogh spent over an hour on the first move against Ondrej Silt in EGC :)
protix [1d\]: prabably drinkin coffee somewhere or smoking
Vlakri [1d\]: was he drunk?
Redjoker [2d\]: don't they play?
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: unbelievably, new Pal Thinking Balogg
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: :)
Javaness [1d\]: is Pal elsewhere?
protix [1d\]: meditating and concentrating, winning the game in his head first ;)
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: no, still sit here
sheeryjay [5k\]: must be pretty disturbing for Jan
Vlakri [1d\]: seems he is thinking 30 moves ahead ;)
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: maybe :)
Fredda [-\]: not so disturbing for Jan, he knows he gets an time adv...
Javaness [1d\]: maybe he fell asleep
Fredda [-\]: can just watch another board
Javaness [1d\]: palika doesn't like to sleep during the night at tournaments
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: Jan is watching another games 
protix [1d\]: lots of players get nervous, when their oponents are in byoyomi...
Samowar [2k\]: err, what should b do?  i don't like r6, thought about p9 but dunno if it's ok
pasky [-\]: fredda: I think it was the other way around, Ondrej spent over an hour
Javaness [1d\]: i wish he's hurry up and play keima approach
pasky [-\]: you need to think important things through
pasky [-\]: it can't be hurried :P
Samowar [2k\]: a question: what is keima? 
sheeryjay [5k\]: knights move
pasky [-\]: knight's move
Samowar [2k\]: ^^'
Samowar [2k\]: oh, thanks
Javaness [1d\]: i feel like banning him now
pasky [-\]: lol
DoDonPachi [1d\]: what an early fight :D
sheeryjay [5k\]: banning? whom?
]
;B[qn]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: viva :)
sheeryjay [5k\]: so 50mins about this move? :)
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: difficult move ;)
Javaness [1d\]: at last
Javaness [1d\]: what else was he going to play
pasky [-\]: well Jan Hora can be very scary guy ;)
sheeryjay [5k\]: P9?
pasky [-\]: I think he was just afraid of him
marchetto [4k?\]: i only have a pro game with P10 played
]
;W[on]C[pasky [-\]: (ahaahaaha has Jan Hora's picture as avatar ;)
DoDonPachi [1d\]: maybe because r11 isnt that usual as well
DoDonPachi [1d\]: pros tend not to start unnecesary fights
marchetto [4k?\]: it's been played in 1970
marchetto [4k?\]: black answered qith q6
marchetto [4k?\]: instead of r6
marchetto [4k?\]: and white defended with O4
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i like q6 more too, white getting outside stones here
marchetto [4k?\]: after that r13 was the black move
]
;B[ok]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: hane seems only move
]
;W[nk]
;B[nl]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: now would be great if double hane worked
]
;W[ol]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: after b extends w connects, right?
bubucaos [10k\]: what about q8 trying to run away?
]
;B[om]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: woah
DoDonPachi [1d\]: how much time on b's clock?
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: 15min left
]
;W[pk]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: maybe its just me, but this looks way too good for w
Fredda [-\]: i agree
Javaness [1d\]: I like R8 for black and eat the ko
]
;B[pl]
;W[ok]C[rigoperl [1k\]: Black o7
]
;B[pm]C[Javaness [1d\]: hard to stop Black making a B2Bomber now
DoDonPachi [1d\]: someting around n4 looks important
Zentapher [7k\]: b2-bomber?
pasky [-\]: zentapher: quite a powerful formation
tiger [6d?\]: check it on senseis :P
Zentapher [7k\]: thank you, all ;-)
myn [-\]: i have never understood that kind of humour
]
;W[nm]
;B[nn]
;W[mm]
;B[oo]
;W[mn]
;B[op]C[chrpa [1k\]: white makes it difficult
Redjoker [2d\]: are they playing without a timelimit?
pasky [-\]: they are playing with time limit ;)
Redjoker [2d\]: :D
pasky [-\]: though someone should make sure if black's aware of it
Redjoker [2d\]: how much time do they have
Vlakri [1d\]: how much is it 75 base or 90?
sheeryjay [5k\]: 75 + 30s per move
]
;W[oq]C[Redjoker [2d\]: ok
sheeryjay [5k\]: black used 50mins on move R6
]
;B[pq]C[Samowar [2k\]: 75min +30s byo yomi
]
;W[pr]
;B[qq]
;W[nq]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: w's influence is priceless, and annoying r2 still there
]
;B[qj]
;W[pi]C[insane6 [3d\]: o5 bigger
DoDonPachi [1d\]: really?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: dunno, doesnt look like b can break throu
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: Pal has last 5 minutes
Javaness [1d\]: soon palika will unleash his true power
]
;B[fq]C[Epilogue [-\]: nuclear tesuji!
]
;W[hq]
;B[hp]C[Javaness [1d\]: no the evil eye of macisjat forged in the fires of mount byoyomi
Epilogue [-\]: lameness ._.
Epilogue [-\]: you can do better than that
]
;W[ip]C[Snakeman [22k\]: white looks very thick
Javaness [1d\]: thick or overconcentrated
insane6 [3d\]: for me w is already to near at his own strength
DoDonPachi [1d\]: difference is paper thin if thickness not well managed
]
;B[gp]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: how to make b heavy here
]
;W[io]
;B[iq]
;W[jq]
;B[ir]
;W[jr]
;B[dr]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: come to think of, r2 and o5 not really incompatible are them?
Snakeman [22k\]: is d2 better than h2 ?
Animal [3k\]: there Dans ;p so all they pley is better than we kyus think ;\]
insane6 [3d\]: w lose for sure
]
;W[cn]
;B[hr]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: e16?
Haloran [-\]: To sheeryjay jaktoze nejsi na turnaji 
DoDonPachi [1d\]: what move do you people like at top right?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: top left*
Snakeman [22k\]: c3 
]
;W[dj]
;B[ed]C[LaNina [2k\]: G17
DoDonPachi [1d\]: ahh. i hope w isnt focusing too much in center points
Snakeman [22k\]: how about k17 
Uberdude [3d\]: i prefer b
LaNina [2k\]: W is leading 
Uberdude [3d\]: w must use thicknesss to invade, middle too small
DoDonPachi [1d\]: yes, thats what i tought
DoDonPachi [1d\]: but hes using it for making direct territory
Uberdude [3d\]: f3 settled too easily
]
;W[jc]
;B[hc]
;W[je]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: k17 is easy to settle, but i feel h17 too good of a move for b
]
;B[ch]C[Epilogue [-\]: too many good moves for black
LaNina [2k\]: K17 really bad
DoDonPachi [1d\]: thickness useless if you dont pick fights
Redjoker [2d\]: mabye w trys to control the centre
]
;W[cc]
;B[dc]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: following his trend now he would e12, but i guess he counted
Samowar [2k\]: hmm, said a 2k?
valence [1d\]: i think, that white has a lot of good kikashis around blacks shimari... his center could be really scary
Snakeman [22k\]: c15 
]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: definitely a center vs corners games, that cant be helped anymore
DoDonPachi [1d\]: hane?
Snakeman [22k\]: yes, d13 is called hane
DoDonPachi [1d\]: im suggesting e13
]
;W[eh]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]
;W[di]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: black is in byoyomi
]
;B[bg]
;W[ck]
;B[bj]C[myn [-\]: i would play k13 as black....white maybe something like p15
Redjoker [2d\]: g6
Redjoker [2d\]: ?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: id play some reinforcing stuff at ur
DoDonPachi [1d\]: to prevent w kikashi
]
;W[gn]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: giid call :D
DoDonPachi [1d\]: good
Redjoker [2d\]: ^^
Redjoker [2d\]: i am pro HAHA
]
;B[oe]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: actually i tought it was b turn lol
Redjoker [2d\]: now its not easy for b
myn [-\]: that was white's move...;/ lame
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i think so too
Redjoker [2d\]: o14?
Uberdude [3d\]: such a key point
Uberdude [3d\]: as w i really would have wanted to get p15 and something in sente, then g6
DoDonPachi [1d\]: this games.. well its hard to know who has the upper hand
]
;W[ih]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: wow.. feels really slow
Redjoker [2d\]: uff
Vlakri [1d\]: what u would play instead?
bobstep [3k\]: slow, but large
]
;B[ki]C[Redjoker [2d\]: xDXDXDXD
DoDonPachi [1d\]: woa
Redjoker [2d\]: what?!?!
DoDonPachi [1d\]: parachute
Epilogue [-\]: y halo thar ^__^
DoDonPachi [1d\]: cho chikun like!
Redjoker [2d\]: does this worK?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: does b really need going this deep?¿
TPol [1k?\]: nuclear submarine
Vlakri [1d\]: very risky with byoyomi
YoungOne [2d\]: Looks really deep...
myn [-\]: redjoker, you think someone would know? :)
bobstep [3k\]: m13?
Redjoker [2d\]: jap
Redjoker [2d\]: :DXD
DoDonPachi [1d\]: m12 would be at the point where you dont know if risk all to capture or block
DoDonPachi [1d\]: but here.. no choice lol
Redjoker [2d\]: does black have a pplan?
]
;W[lh]C[Snakeman [22k\]: aha white is going for the kill
]
;B[hn]C[Redjoker [2d\]: ^^
]
;W[ho]C[igocentric [1d\]: hmm blk attacking white from the inside
]
;B[np]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: man l11 looks so much like a typo
DoDonPachi [1d\]: xD
Redjoker [2d\]: i think w is winning now
]
;W[mp]
;B[hh]C[Snakeman [22k\]: black is certainly full of surprises
]
;W[hi]C[matilda: I am not convinced B knows what he is doing with all these forcing moves.
]
;B[mq]C[Redjoker [2d\]: :D
Redjoker [2d\]: lol
bobstep [3k\]: I think it is desparation
Snakeman [22k\]: o5 ?
Redjoker [2d\]: jup
]
;W[no]C[matilda: I don'rt believe this from B.
]
;B[po]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: this doesnt even fix r2
Redjoker [2d\]: w is kind
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i think ges lost it
DoDonPachi [1d\]: hes
]
;W[mr]C[Redjoker [2d\]: he shares his time with black^^
DoDonPachi [1d\]: w very cautious
Lilltiger [1k\]: wht not r2?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i dont know
]
;B[jh]C[matilda: B os creating problems for humself-
]
;W[jg]C[Redjoker [2d\]: he destroys himself
]
;B[lq]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: its strange, the game didnt look bad at all for b, just l11 at m1 and you have a fair game
]
;W[lp]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: m11*
]
;B[qr]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: so all this to fix r2, but not 100% sente
matilda: Not good timing from B-
matilda: Not good timing-
DoDonPachi [1d\]: w can ignore right?
]
;W[lr]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: uhm, i dont see hows this needed
Samowar [2k\]: wow:\]
]
;B[fn]C[Namii [-\]: if w tenuki black can M2
Redjoker [2d\]: if b m 2 w would be dead
Uberdude [3d\]: g7
matilda: O think B's riming is wrong.
Uberdude [3d\]: or f7?
matilda: Wh settle the lower right when centre is still unsettled
DoDonPachi [1d\]: redjoker but then just connecting is better no?
bobstep [3k\]: g5?
]
;W[hg]C[hero99: b r2 was very big, and b wanted it by sente thats all boys
]
;B[fm]
;W[gm]
;B[go]
;W[fl]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]C[Redjoker [2d\]: if he connects n1 is the key move to kill the grou[p @ dodonpachi
]
;B[or]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: i cant see that , but anyway
]
;W[fc]
;B[fd]
;W[gc]
;B[gd]
;W[hb]
;B[dm]C[matilda: H 13 looks overcomcentrated-
]
;W[cq]
;B[cm]
;W[el]
;B[bn]C[janibi [1d\]: is there a internet site with the results?
matilda: What is W doling?
nikasi [-\]: http://www.goweb.cz/node/41
janibi [1d\]: thx
Uberdude [3d\]: dying?
Redjoker [2d\]: seems so
DoDonPachi [1d\]: woah
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i go get some coffee and sudently w has screwed
matilda: Ugly, W fell asleep-
DoDonPachi [1d\]: i cant believe w tenukied c7 lol
matilda: W must be seething inwardly.
Snakeman [22k\]: c2 ?
matilda: His grand conception blown - we all know the feeling:)
]
;W[cr]
;B[bp]
;W[er]
;B[eq]
;W[dq]
;B[fr]
;W[ds]
;B[fs]C[matilda: Ko
DoDonPachi [1d\]: yup
DoDonPachi [1d\]: a2 next
DoDonPachi [1d\]: which ko is better?
Redjoker [2d\]: i think it is dead
Uberdude [3d\]: not dead, ko
DoDonPachi [1d\]: 2 ways of settiing up ko
DoDonPachi [1d\]: pretty much the same i guess
]
;W[es]
;B[br]
;W[bq]
;B[aq]C[TekiLatex [2d\]: a2
matilda: Best
]
;W[ar]C[Redjoker [2d\]: good for black anywat
]
;B[as]
;W[bs]
;B[cs]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: ko better than plain dead at lease :D
pasky [-\]: now about the ko threats...
royu [5d\]: w lost 
royu [5d\]: b has much better ko
matilda: Flower ko for B tho.
pasky [-\]: yep
]
;W[qc]
;B[rd]
;W[bs]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: well, having such a center is big source of threats
pasky [-\]: j11 could be nifty? does it work?
]
;B[kg]C[pasky [-\]: or this :)
royu [5d\]: this seems weird
royu [5d\]: j11 first better
]
;W[kh]
;B[cs]
;W[pc]
;B[ob]
;W[bs]C[pasky [-\]: why weird, after j11 l13 much smaller threat, isn't it
]
;B[jf]
;W[ji]C[Uberdude [3d\]: q17 threat loses points
]
;B[cs]
;W[pd]
;B[pe]C[pasky [-\]: ubderdude: see anything better for w?
]
;W[bs]C[Uberdude [3d\]: no
]
;B[im]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: most w threats are gonna lose poitns at this stagwe
Uberdude [3d\]: which is why this ko is a disaster
]
;W[hl]
;B[cs]C[Uberdude [3d\]: e8 so greedy
Javaness [1d\]: how can he win without e8
pasky [-\]: I saw W reading Takemiya's book the last time I was in the local go club
pasky [-\]: I suppose this is the result :)
royu [5d\]: wow, i really think l13 was bad...
]
;W[qe]
;B[qf]
;W[bs]C[matilda: Me too-
]
;B[hk]
;W[gk]
;B[cs]
;W[od]
;B[nd]
;W[bs]
;B[il]
;W[in]
;B[cs]C[royu [5d\]: b misread upper right too, such a well of threats
royu [5d\]: maybe should have captured on r17
]
;W[ne]C[matilda: Still should win tho.
]
;B[md]C[bobstep [3k\]: e7 might be a threat for withe
DoDonPachi [1d\]: b been in byo yomi for a while
]
;W[bs]C[royu [5d\]: might even lose ko now
]
;B[gb]C[matilda: Enough.
RSG [10k\]: ignore?
]
;W[ar]
;B[ib]C[daladim [1k\]: hmmm
matilda: B 80 points
Midorya [2d\]: o2 
DoDonPachi [1d\]: b has way too much.. w hasnt answered o2 yet
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white in byo
]
;W[me]
;B[ld]C[Hammer [3d\]: W lost
]
;W[le]
;B[kd]C[matilda: A moment's carelessness.
]
;W[ic]C[royu [5d\]: is the byo very fast? w careless here
]
;B[hd]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: probably 30 seconds?
]
;W[jb]
;B[ha]
;W[ke]C[valence [1d\]: 30s/move three times
matilda: B must win - he will be in a better mental state.
royu [5d\]: thx
]
;B[nr]C[Midorya [2d\]: so big
royu [5d\]: w b9 seems big
royu [5d\]: interesting too...
]
;W[rc]
;B[re]C[pasky [-\]: b can't cut at k16?
DoDonPachi [1d\]: this isnt really close anymore
pasky [-\]: oh
pasky [-\]: *cough
pasky [-\]: nm :)
]
;W[mb]
;B[pb]
;W[of]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]C[daladim [1k\]: b wins huge or not now ?
]
;W[qb]
;B[lb]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: r18 might lose points 
royu [5d\]: w b9 leads to e7 cut and also b16 aji?
]
;W[bd]
;B[bc]
;W[na]C[DoDonPachi [1d\]: this looks too much like preresign struggle
]
;B[kb]
;W[cb]
;B[be]C[royu [5d\]: nod, w is reaching...
royu [5d\]: stretching it a bit...
]
;W[kc]
;B[lc]C[matilda: Looking for a swindle.
]
;W[ka]C[matilda: To be accurate.
]
;B[la]C[Redjoker [2d\]: he needs time so he uses ko treats to get byomi time i think
]
;W[ie]
;B[ja]
;W[eg]C[matilda: Nothin there - lost points.
]
;B[og]C[daladim [1k\]: w should resign now i think
]
;W[nf]
;B[ph]C[royu [5d\]: yes but behind by 25+, and n18, o19 were just nothing, looking for b blunder
]
;W[nh]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[kr]
;W[ks]
;B[nq]
;W[df]
;B[cg]C[matilda: Small for B compared to B9.
]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[bl]
;B[bm]C[Scarsick [8k\]: e7 
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white resigns, black won
matilda: B always has B9
vanezigy [8k\]: yup, go HUNGARY
Luksa [3k\]: right thing to do
])