(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Pandanet Go European Cup - Brno, 6th round, 3rd board]PW[Ondrej Silt, 6.dan]PB[Cristian Pop, 7.dan]DT[2007-09-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[fq]
;W[cn]
;B[ip]
;W[qn]
;B[po]
;W[rp]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[pl]
;W[pm]
;B[om]
;W[qq]
;B[pr]
;W[rk]C[spongy [1d\]: cool
]
;B[fc]C[Vlakri [1d\]: koho dostal písa? předpokládám Cho?
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: jj
sheeryjay [5k\]: wow, takze bude hrat se vsemi z velke trojky? :)
]
;W[hd]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: ted se musi modlit za dobry sos, aby skoncil dobre
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: Cho Seok uz nebude tak sdilny jako Katos ;)
sheeryjay [5k\]: heh :D
]
;B[fe]
;W[df]
;B[db]
;W[cc]
;B[hb]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: fiha a to mi pred turnajem rikal ze by si rad zahral s nekym z tech tri :)
]
;W[ge]
;B[ff]
;W[di]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: :)
]
;B[ed]C[barty [1d\]: where is firsth board ??
sheeryjay [5k\]: first board is on igs
sheeryjay [5k\]: broadcasted by user Brno2007
]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]
;W[lo]
;B[lp]
;W[jp]C[Javaness [1d\]: Go Solaris
]
;B[jq]
;W[jo]
;B[io]
;W[iq]
;B[kq]
;W[in]C[Javaness [1d\]: is ondrej still sticking numbers on pop?
]
;B[hn]C[BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: no :)
]
;W[hm]
;B[im]
;W[jn]
;B[go]
;W[gm]C[redon [1d\]: sticking numbers?
Javaness [1d\]: the kifu numbers
]
;B[il]C[Javaness [1d\]: severe
Nezumi [1d\]: solaris is bad os
costins [2k\]: how do you know?
]
;W[no]
;B[mo]
;W[mn]
;B[mp]
;W[kl]
;B[mm]
;W[nn]
;B[km]
;W[lm]
;B[ll]
;W[ln]
;B[kk]
;W[ml]
;B[jl]C[Javaness [1d\]: interesting choice
]
;W[nm]C[Javaness [1d\]: c9?
sheeryjay [5k\]: Jan Simara just resigned, Cho Seok-Bin has thus won all his games in tournament
Javaness [1d\]: who is taranu playing today?
chrpa [1k\]: csaba mero
chrpa [1k\]: http://www.goweb.cz/node/41?sort=rank=%3Ea
]
;B[ck]C[Samowar [2k\]: hmm, a question: how much time did they have?
sheeryjay [5k\]: 75mins basic time, 30s byoyomi
Tauren [1d\]: nice call java
XiaXia [2d\]: to who did catalin taranu lose?
valence [1d\]: jan pisarik and cho seok bin
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: Simara
valence [1d\]: oh, sry, i can't get used to his new name.)
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: :)
]
;W[ci]
;B[ej]C[pasky [-\]: coze,  nez jsem se na igsko stihl pripojit tak je po vsem?
sheeryjay [5k\]: bohuzel :(
]
;W[gj]C[Samowar [2k\]: thanks Sheeryjay
]
;B[ei]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: you're welcome
royu [5d\]: wow, is cho the only asian (ethnically) player in the tournament?
]
;W[eh]C[sheeryjay [5k\]: probably, but does that matter?
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: i think so
royu [5d\]: sheerjay, isn't it rare to only have one asian person in a large Go tournament?
tiger [6d?\]: well, in America maybe
tiger [6d?\]: not so in Europe
sheeryjay [5k\]: not so many asian people living in europe
royu [5d\]: thx tiger
sheeryjay [5k\]: if someone wants to emmigrate elsewhere he usually goes to the country of freedom and endless possibilities ;)
wicket [-\]: maybe depends on the country, there's lots in the UK
]
;B[fk]
;W[gk]
;B[fi]
;W[fo]
;B[hq]C[igocentric [1d\]: canada ?
]
;W[hi]
;B[fh]
;W[eg]C[Javaness [1d\]: L9 feels vunerable
]
;B[fg]
;W[ki]
;B[mk]C[Javaness [1d\]: right direction?
]
;W[gn]
;B[ho]
;W[ol]
;B[li]C[Enzan [12k\]: is this game in IGS?
chrpa [1k\]: on igs there was Cho Seok Bin vs Simara
]
;W[kh]
;B[ok]C[valence [1d\]: was... that means cho resigned already?.)
chrpa [1k\]: well, this time it was Simara who resigned
valence [1d\]: pity.)
]
;W[on]C[chrpa [1k\]: yes, great results he has
]
;B[lh]
;W[lg]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: looks like B will win this one...
]
;B[nh]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: W's biggest territory is around B14 and there is nowhere he can really expand a lot
Spacemen3 [4d\]: ... although E2 is _huge_
]
;W[nf]C[tiger [6d?\]: well, b does not have so much for now either
Spacemen3 [4d\]: no, but he has more places to expand
Spacemen3 [4d\]: at least that's what it looks like to me
tiger [6d?\]: somehow it feels w could get more from this attack
Spacemen3 [4d\]: hard to attack after B got a ponnuki
tiger [6d?\]: maybe p8 was a bit slow... though probably w didn't want to get troubles in the rear
Spacemen3 [4d\]: nobody wants troubles in the rear ^^
tiger [6d?\]: usually not, but sometimes ... ;P
]
;B[pf]
;W[og]
;B[qh]
;W[pc]
;B[oc]C[MISIO [3d\]: is 1st board  on igs?
Vlakri [1d\]: yes but already finished
]
;W[od]C[MISIO [3d\]: who played?
MISIO [3d\]: adn who 've won
MISIO [3d\]: ?
redon [1d\]: bin won
MISIO [3d\]: with?
Vlakri [1d\]: Cho Seok Bin 7D beats Jan Simara 4D 
MISIO [3d\]: ok thx
OasisDK [9k\]: resignation
dangodan [3d\]: simara=hahaha?
MAOR182 [5k\]: only players from europe can play this or is it a open competition?
dangodan [3d\]: open
Baduk4you [4d\]: its open
]
;B[nc]
;W[mj]C[dangodan [3d\]: else bin couldnt play
]
;B[lj]
;W[nk]
;B[nj]
;W[lk]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[mk]C[Javaness [1d\]: I like a good ko fight
]
;W[gp]
;B[ir]
;W[lk]
;B[mf]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: there are no competitions that are only open to europen players as far as I know
]
;W[mg]
;B[mk]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: there are some invitational events, but they are only limited in rank
]
;W[np]
;B[nq]
;W[lk]
;B[ng]C[royu [5d\]: b weird here?
royu [5d\]: w shoulder consider o11
Vlakri [1d\]: spacemen there are .. such as INGcup qualification etc.
Spacemen3 [4d\]: O11 N12 and then?
]
;W[of]C[royu [5d\]: then p14
]
;B[qd]C[royu [5d\]: ondrej silt sounds familiar, has a kgs account I believe
Baduk4you [4d\]: agassi
Spacemen3 [4d\]: yes, several
royu [5d\]: thx
Javaness [1d\]: seems bad for black
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I think with P14 W made himself heavy
Spacemen3 [4d\]: so I think it's bad for W ;)
Javaness [1d\]: I will let the players decide
chrpa [1k\]: if white can afford r16, it is bad for white
Spacemen3 [4d\]: now W will have to capture the N14 stone
Spacemen3 [4d\]: it takes at least two moves
royu [5d\]: unless o11 works directly now...
Spacemen3 [4d\]: if O11 then N12 and it becomes almost impossible to capture the N14 stone
]
;W[ni]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: so P14 dies
Spacemen3 [4d\]: doesn't look like W is worried though :)
royu [5d\]: heaviness of p14 isn't so much a big deal, since w has two outlets, it was mainly the loss of  w r16
Javaness [1d\]: i don't see that black has the liberties to resist
royu [5d\]: although w r16 is a bit of a heavy life in corner
]
;B[oh]
;W[mh]
;B[me]C[Vlakri [1d\]: i think that b is still better its only about 20 points loss but he received big corner in exchange
Javaness [1d\]: g flush 
flush [4d\]: g
flush [4d\]: ukraine eurovision 2007 so g
flush [4d\]: there is new g videoclip
]
;W[oj]C[flush [4d\]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0FmgBgEQ4o
]
;B[ph]
;W[ke]
;B[ef]C[Javaness [1d\]: that's revolting
]
;W[cg]
;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[cq]C[Javaness [1d\]: j13
]
;W[dq]
;B[dr]
;W[cp]
;B[br]
;W[bq]
;B[cr]C[Redjoker [2d\]: isn't white leading?
Vlakri [1d\]: no
Vlakri [1d\]: i guess ;)
zen [6k\]: white looks better to me
chrpa [1k\]: yes
zen [6k\]: but what do I know :)
Redjoker [2d\]: 10
googlebear [2k\]: heh  w has a LOT of work to do make this even game
Redjoker [2d\]: zen+h= 10 = zehn
]
;W[lc]
;B[ic]
;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[le]
;B[mc]
;W[ld]
;B[ne]
;W[ri]
;B[rh]
;W[hf]
;B[fp]
;W[bj]
;B[fl]
;W[gl]
;B[bk]
;W[bo]
;B[aq]
;W[en]
;B[jd]
;W[lb]
;B[je]
;W[oa]
;B[jg]
;W[kg]C[googlebear [2k\]: J12
costins [2k\]: too pasive
]
;B[jh]C[googlebear [2k\]: kills a lot of b
]
;W[ji]C[googlebear [2k\]: w i mean
]
;B[hg]
;W[pb]
;B[rb]C[HumbleGod [4k\]: what is this?
]
;W[sh]
;B[sg]
;W[si]C[HumbleGod [4k\]: is he reviewing a game or is this game happening now?
]
;B[rd]
;W[qr]C[nogo123 [12k?\]: its an england tournament for pros
]
;B[qs]
;W[rs]
;B[ps]
;W[pp]
;B[op]
;W[qp]
;B[oo]C[GIVENCHY [8k?\]: c18
Unvite: I prefer white in this game
]
;W[cb]
;B[ca]
;W[ba]
;B[da]C[googlebear [2k\]: well    w is behind atm
LaNina [2k\]: close
]
;W[jb]C[OasisDK [9k\]: slightly
Javaness [1d\]: yose fun
]
;B[qj]
;W[rj]C[dangodan [3d\]: p19 was big mistake but i think w still ahead
]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]C[googlebear [2k\]: D7
googlebear [2k\]: heh   temperature really rising on D15
Winc [-\]: d7 ?
]
;B[bp]C[Mariko [3d\]: Bè
]
;W[ib]C[Mariko [3d\]: B7
]
;B[hc]C[daladim [1k\]: b18 not big ?
]
;W[bb]C[daladim [1k\]: ah
Mariko [3d\]: ¨¨
Mariko [3d\]: ^^
daladim [1k\]: :)
]
;B[eo]C[nogo123 [12k?\]: lol
]
;W[fn]C[Vlakri [1d\]: now is h19 in sente
]
;B[ep]
;W[dn]C[OasisDK [9k\]: as big as S2
daladim [1k\]: right
]
;B[cj]
;W[bi]
;B[jc]C[daladim [1k\]: h19
]
;W[kc]C[daladim [1k\]: euh
daladim [1k\]: i gnu
]
;B[ha]
;W[eq]
;B[er]C[Javaness [1d\]: looks like white +20.5
costins [2k\]: lol
Etherion [8k\]: can w play j14 and connect?
costins [2k\]: no
]
;W[mb]C[Javaness [1d\]: SE stong
]
;B[rr]
;W[sr]
;B[ss]
;W[eb]
;B[ec]
;W[rs]
;B[qk]
;W[ql]
;B[ss]C[Etherion [8k\]: what would black do if w j14?
SE [-\]: I am
]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[rs]C[Javaness [1d\]: hi SE
SE [-\]: Afternoon'
]
;B[ih]C[Javaness [1d\]: difficult to show etherion, but it doesn't work
]
;W[ii]C[Samowar [2k\]: bk14 then
chrpa [1k\]: wj14, b k14
]
;B[hh]C[KomaT2 [9k\]: cristian pop is a gamer in kgs no?
nogo123 [12k?\]: L14 if white were to do J14
chrpa [1k\]: cpop
dangodan [3d\]: and solaris
nogo123 [12k?\]: i just said
]
;W[bm]
;B[ss]C[googlebear [2k\]: w wins
]
;W[gq]C[nogo123 [12k?\]: oh whops scrolled all the way up
daladim [1k\]: his kgs account has many victories
]
;B[fr]
;W[rs]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[ss]
;W[hp]
;B[gr]
;W[rs]
;B[ja]
;W[rq]
;B[ia]
;W[kb]C[royu [5d\]: w's midgame fighting won this
royu [5d\]: at p14 m11 exchange :)
]
;B[oe]C[royalty [3d\]: ?
MoonLightK [3d\]: siroiikana?
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: white is in byoyomi
]
;W[qo]
;B[oq]
;W[qa]
;B[na]
;W[nb]
;B[ob]C[royu [5d\]: although, b's play seemed very loose entire game as well
]
;W[ma]
;B[ra]
;W[dl]
;B[cl]
;W[el]C[royu [5d\]: looking at b's shapes, especially at bottom, they don't have much efficiency
]
;B[dj]
;W[ao]C[Solid30k [4k\]: Can i find the results on web ?
]
;B[gi]C[pasky [-\]: solid30k, they are top secret
Vlakri [1d\]: http://www.goweb.cz/node/41
Solid30k [4k\]: oh ok sorry
]
;W[ap]
;B[bq]C[pasky [-\]: does japan have a secret service?
Winc [-\]: and whites mega pnuki o9 does alot?
]
;W[rg]
;B[sf]
;W[ka]C[EvilCat [1k?\]: S13 time tesuji?
]
;B[qc]C[pasky [-\]: s13 just timesuji or something deeper into it?
]
;W[na]
;B[cm]C[pasky [-\]: I can see no particularily intereswting ko
]
;W[al]
;B[ak]
;W[aj]C[Marek [7d\]: 5,5
]
;B[bl]
;W[am]C[Solid30k [4k\]: so Soek-bin Cho won againist a 5p ?
janibi [1d\]: yes
EvilCat [1k?\]: 3.5
Baduk4you [4d\]: thats not a surprise
]
;B[jf]
;W[dm]C[Midorya [2d\]: bin strong
]
;B[fm]C[TurtleGO [2k?\]: whoes bin ^^
pasky [-\]: Jan Simara winning against the 5p is more of a surprise :)
janibi [1d\]: yeah but catalin loose too against a 4d
]
;W[ee]C[Solid30k [4k\]: i met Bin personally at My University go club
pasky [-\]: janibi: but that 4d very strong :)
]
;B[bn]
;W[an]C[Marek [7d\]:  seok bin Cho is strong~~ like 5p
]
;B[de]
;W[mq]C[janibi [1d\]: hihi
]
;B[mr]
;W[ee]C[janibi [1d\]: yeah
]
;B[qi]C[pasky [-\]: not as strong as Catalin but luck helped too I guess
]
;W[oi]
;B[de]C[pasky [-\]: that "4d" lives in KGS as TheLooser
]
;W[nr]
;B[ns]C[EvilCat [1k?\]: strong 4d like cappy
]
;W[ee]
;B[rl]
;W[rm]
;B[de]
;W[rf]
;B[se]
;W[ee]C[Marek [7d\]: look forst score Catalin vs Seok bin ;-)
Marek [7d\]: first*
jopiou [8k\]: j9 ? white
TurtleGO [2k?\]: seok bin cho is 3p i think
]
;B[hj]C[Javaness [1d\]: he has no professional title
Kamisama [2k\]: its Cho sok bin...
Kamisama [2k\]: *seok
nogo123 [12k?\]: did u no if u press control L it zooms in on the go board
James83 [8k\]: weird
Baduk4you [4d\]: turtle, seok bin is 6d in korea. he isnt pro
Plunder [2k\]: Cho is his last name
tiger [6d?\]: and then you see little creeps there?
]
;W[ik]
;B[de]C[Treziac [8k\]: it's only for coords nogo
janibi [1d\]: hihi yes but he is teacher from japanese insei^^
]
;W[fj]
;B[ek]
;W[ee]C[nogo123 [12k?\]: בםםרגד??
XiaXia [2d\]: of
]
;B[qb]
;W[pa]
;B[de]C[janibi [1d\]: thx
]
;W[kf]
;B[ee]C[TurtleGO [2k?\]: ...
Jadeite [?\]: Cho is his family name
Marek [7d\]: Bin7674 vs Catalin 2:0
Marek [7d\]: bin7674 vs Fan Hui 3p 2:2
shi [3k\]: isn't fan hui 4p now ?
]
;W[hk]
;B[dk]
;W[em]
;B[lf]
;W[kd]C[Marek [7d\]: maybe i dont know
dangodan [3d\]: catalin has gone soft after he returned from japan
]
;B[pi]C[Baduk4you [4d\]: w should win by about 4,5 points
janibi [1d\]: 2,5
]
;W[]C[boksiu [5k?\]: good game ^^
Winc [-\]: 4.5 ^^
samotnosc [1d?\]: yeah 4.5
Redjoker [2d\]: komi?
Winc [-\]: lol 60 dead stones
samotnosc [1d?\]: 6,5
pasky [-\]: weird I count 5.5
samotnosc [1d?\]: 6,5 (komi)
Redjoker [2d\]: thx^^
chrpa [1k\]: thank you
Winc [-\]: pasky did you count n3 /s8 
nogo123 [12k?\]: wierd last move was the 300th move
nogo123 [12k?\]: N9
pasky [-\]: winc: yes
pasky [-\]: just recounted, still see it as 5.5 :(
dangodan [3d\]: agree pasky
Winc [-\]: ...well...same dead stones num 
Winc [-\]: oh heh lol yep 5.5 ^^
Winc [-\]: ...se didnt count l10 =P my bad 
nogo123 [12k?\]: wen is black going to make his move >=/
Baduk4you [4d\]: this game is over babe
nogo123 [12k?\]: not most people call guys babes but okay lol'
Baduk4you [4d\]: the chance was 50/50^^
nogo123 [12k?\]: is it me or is this game boting now
killmaniac [2k?\]: final count?
nogo123 [12k?\]: boring
nogo123 [12k?\]: white won by 4.5
killmaniac [2k?\]: thanks
nogo123 [12k?\]: white 97.5
nogo123 [12k?\]: black 93.0
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: sorry
BrnoPGEC07 [?\]: yes, white won by 4,5 points
nogo123 [12k?\]: thx
])