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RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
PW[eGOBAN]PB[eGOBAN]DT[2006-07-16]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[eGOBAN [-\]: Black is Cristian Pop 7.dan, white Martin Jurek 4.dan
nill [3k\]: hi
eGOBAN [-\]: hello everybody :)
]
;B[pd]CR[pd]C[softoldman [?\]: hi
]
;W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[softoldman [?\]: game conditions ?
]
;W[iq]CR[iq]C[eGOBAN [-\]: 1 hour per player and 15/5 byo.
]
;B[io]CR[io]C[rayen [6k\]: wow
softoldman [?\]: pretty fast
rayen [6k\]: suprising move :P
eGOBAN [-\]: Cristian Pop hasnt been defeated in the tournament so far
softoldman [?\]: white can make a base now
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[rayen [6k\]: yea
]
;B[hq]CR[hq]C[sheeryjay [16k\]: but black has capped him
]
;W[hr]CR[hr]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[gr]CR[gr]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[softoldman [?\]: the hoshi stone comes under attack
softoldman [?\]: black seems to prefer thickness
]
;W[fp]CR[fp]
;B[gq]CR[gq]
;W[en]CR[en]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[dq]CR[dq]C[softoldman [?\]: anyone know if this is joseki ?
]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[kyurin [1d\]: "joseki" ;P
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[softoldman [?\]: lol, guess not
kyurin [1d\]: hehe
]
;W[jp]CR[jp]C[softoldman [?\]: then again, you never know :-)
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[kyurin [1d\]: you can tell
softoldman [?\]: yup, but you can never be sure
kyurin [1d\]: that is, I cannot be but a stronger player can
]
;W[el]CR[el]
;B[bm]CR[bm]C[softoldman [?\]: hardly, there are millions of joseki, who knows them all?
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[rayen [6k\]: no one learns alot of josekis
kyurin [1d\]: it is the strong players who invents the josekis
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[kyurin [1d\]: or has invented
rayen [6k\]: you play from what your sense is
kyurin [1d\]: or so called judgement
rayen [6k\]: yup
kyurin [1d\]: and that's what makes you strong
]
;W[fm]CR[fm]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[softoldman [?\]: black seems to do fine, he got both corners at the bottom and he settled himself at the left 
]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[kyurin [1d\]: i would not imagine anything else from Pop ;-\]
]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[softoldman [?\]: J5 worked out nicely
]
;B[kd]CR[kd]C[softoldman [?\]: although i have to admit black is not yet 100% alive
kyurin [1d\]: he can escape easilly
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]C[softoldman [?\]: why does white create a weak group here ?
kyurin [1d\]: who knows
rayen [6k\]: weak group where ? ... E16  isnt in trouble since b isnt so strong on side
]
;B[ie]CR[ie]C[rayen [6k\]: and J18  is valid move :P
rayen [6k\]: H16 
rayen [6k\]: maybe K15  first
softoldman [?\]: black is going for thickness 
]
;W[hd]CR[hd]
;B[he]CR[he]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[rayen [6k\]: I think K15  would been better to do first
rayen [6k\]: maybe not
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[rayen [6k\]: E17 
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[pj]CR[pj]C[softoldman [?\]: that white corner has become pretty large
softoldman [?\]: 25 points or so
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[rc]CR[rc]C[rayen [6k\]: I think this was good plan by white
VasekPE [20k\]: Good idea ..
VasekPE [20k\]: Hi all.
softoldman [?\]: very brave
softoldman [?\]: but to have a chance in this game white may need to invade the bottom right also
]
;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[kg]CR[kg]C[rayen [6k\]: L14 
rayen [6k\]: hm maybe not
rayen [6k\]: N12 
rayen [6k\]: still some aji later at K14 
]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[jb]CR[jb]C[softoldman [?\]: that is gote ?
rayen [6k\]: this isnt sente
rayen [6k\]: just to protect top
rayen [6k\]: maybe Q8  now
rayen [6k\]: hard to say how weak O14  is
softoldman [?\]: the upper right and the upper left are almost the same size
softoldman [?\]: so black must still be leading
rayen [6k\]: white also have komi
]
;W[mj]CR[mj]
;B[eb]CR[eb]C[rayen [6k\]: and H4  isnt settled yet
rayen [6k\]: G18 
softoldman [?\]: oh that works ?
kyurin [1d\]: it doesnt
rayen [6k\]: probably just to get K17  sente
rayen [6k\]: or so
]
;W[gb]CR[gb]
;B[fr]CR[fr]C[rayen [6k\]: hm
softoldman [?\]: urgent point, now black is alive
rayen [6k\]: w probably need to defend bottom
rayen [6k\]: else b got K2 
]
;W[cf]CR[cf]C[rayen [6k\]: :(
rayen [6k\]: maybe w should have played F2  first instead of N10 
softoldman [?\]: perhaps
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[ql]CR[ql]C[softoldman [?\]: positive move
]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[qo]CR[qo]C[rayen [6k\]: if b manages to get N10  weak then w got some problems
]
;B[jr]CR[jr]C[rayen [6k\]: :/
]
;W[kr]CR[kr]
;B[ir]CR[ir]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[gs]CR[gs]
;W[lo]CR[lo]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[softoldman [?\]: 2 stone sacrifice but still sente for black
]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[mk]CR[mk]C[rayen [6k\]: w got some problems now
]
;W[lk]CR[lk]
;B[ml]CR[ml]C[rayen [6k\]: 3 unsettled groups
rayen [6k\]: well
softoldman [?\]: N2 makes life at the bottom
rayen [6k\]: maybe the one on side is alive
rayen [6k\]: since S3 S10  miai
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[rq]CR[rq]
;W[oq]CR[oq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[op]CR[op]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[ro]CR[ro]
;B[rn]CR[rn]C[softoldman [?\]: R8 dies ?
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]
;B[oo]CR[oo]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[om]CR[om]C[softoldman [?\]: well, seems black got the better part of this exchange
rayen [6k\]: w needed to settle
softoldman [?\]: and he did, but at a great cost
softoldman [?\]: also there is still a cut left at M10 
]
;W[ej]CR[ej]C[rayen [6k\]: well if he didnt he could have some serious problems later :P
]
;B[ei]CR[ei]
;W[fi]CR[fi]C[wolchengi [-\]: black is pop?
]
;B[di]CR[di]C[softoldman [?\]: yes
]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[jf]CR[jf]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[softoldman [?\]: and he seems to be in the winning mood
wolchengi [-\]: ^^
wolchengi [-\]: his opponent?
]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[cc]CR[cc]C[rayen [6k\]: some 4d :P
eGOBAN [-\]: Martin Jurek from czechia
]
;W[fb]CR[fb]
;B[dd]CR[dd]C[wolchengi [-\]: oooph
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[bb]CR[bb]
;W[ad]CR[ad]C[softoldman [?\]: ko
]
;B[ac]CR[ac]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[wolchengi [-\]: pop needs some strong opponents ^^
rayen [6k\]: he defeated agassi - Ondrei Silt 6d yesterday
rayen [6k\]: Ondrej
]
;B[np]CR[np]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[softoldman [?\]: sorry, it is too late to join the tournament wolchengi
Pianist [?\]: how many rounds is it?
wolchengi [-\]: lol
eGOBAN [-\]: 6
wolchengi [-\]: these are european players only?
wolchengi [-\]: where is Dinerstein?
rayen [6k\]: yea I think so
Pianist [?\]: alex lives in Russia
]
;W[on]CR[on]
;B[pn]CR[pn]C[rayen [6k\]: not Korea ?
]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Pianist [?\]: i have no idea, actually
]
;B[me]CR[me]C[rayen [6k\]: I would assume he still studies there
wolchengi [-\]: russia
wolchengi [-\]: he went back, didn't enter this tournament?
]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[bg]CR[bg]
;B[bh]CR[bh]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[og]CR[og]C[Pianist [?\]: is bin attending Congress?
rayen [6k\]: maybe he only participate in large tournamentd
rayen [6k\]: tournaments*
]
;W[of]CR[of]C[rayen [6k\]: I mean big
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]C[chrpa [6k\]: so big or large ? :)
rayen [6k\]: big :P
]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[ab]CR[ab]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[rh]CR[rh]C[rayen [6k\]: bad shape
rayen [6k\]: R13 
]
;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[ri]CR[ri]
;B[rj]CR[rj]C[chrpa [6k\]: yeah
softoldman [?\]: white must live
]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[nh]CR[nh]C[Pianist [?\]: why l11?
]
;B[nj]CR[nj]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Pianist [?\]: just cut
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[softoldman [?\]: damezumari
]
;W[rg]CR[rg]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[kl]CR[kl]C[rayen [6k\]: K9 
rayen [6k\]: get a small wall
]
;W[if]CR[if]
;B[je]CR[je]
;W[ah]CR[ah]
;B[ai]CR[ai]
;W[ag]CR[ag]
;B[bi]CR[bi]C[softoldman [?\]: White is behind
eGOBAN [-\]: w resign, pop won
softoldman [?\]: congratulations
])